Ron and Jp are joined by special guest Mike Klimo, author of starwarsringtheory.com. In his fascinating essay Mike makes the claim that although possibly not aware of it, George Lucas used an ancient literary technique known as chiastic structure or ring structure when writing the entire Star Wars saga. Chiastic structure is when narrative motifs are presented in a symmetrical structure, often with an opening and closing, forming a ring pattern. Chiastic structures can be found in the Odyssey, the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament. With a well researched essay and many visuals from all six movies that support this theory, Mike believes that Star Wars uses this ring pattern as well. Join us as Mike elevates our usual conversations and gets granular with SWDOG!